cleons death

Darken · Post by **Darken** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:00 am

If you watch the scene in the graveyard Swan asks about Cleon neither of the Warriors knew rather if Cleon was killed or arrested. A few moments later it is likely that they figured Cleon was arrested and moved on considering there was no possible way of going back to see if Cleon was ok or not.

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:46 pm

If Cleon didn't 'disappear' at the beginning of the movie,I doubt Swan will became such a strong character. Also,the movie script would probably look very different from the one used, so I guess Cleon's death is, in a way, positive thing.

The Swan · Post by **The Swan** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:02 pm

Cyrus wrote: If Cleon didn't 'disappear' at the beginning of the movie,I doubt Swan will became such a strong character. Also,the movie script would probably look very different from the one used, so I guess Cleon's death is, in a way, positive thing.

Ye sure, movie script is like we know cause Swan had to become such a strong character!!!
But I think he would have become strong the same, even without Cleon's death, cause his mind and his tenacity were the reasons he was Cleon's 2nd in command!!! Also Cleon knew about Swan characterists!!!
So in a way or another that was his destiny!!! 8)

mafiaman I · Post by **mafiaman I** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:54 pm

i would have liked it if cleon would be in the movie longer

The Swan · Post by **The Swan** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:57 pm

Ye sure, I think everybody would like the same!!!

But if it had gone so, we'd have seen another story... and thinking about, it would have been a cool story the same!!!

8)

Uncle Swan · Post by **Uncle Swan** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:19 pm

Hector wrote: You're definitely right. Did you know that in the book, cleon (his name is Papa Arnold in the book) actually makes it back to the hangout.

Sorry to disagree with you but I don't remember papa Arnold making it back. I am at the moment re-reading the book and like Cleon Papa Arnold was beaten down by the Delancey Thrones(Riffs) for stopping to look at the fallen Ismael(Cyrus). I don't remember him featuring in the story again after that. When I have finished reading the book if I am wrong I will post an apology

Uncle Swan · Post by **Uncle Swan** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:37 pm

As promised here is my apology to Hector,

sorry in the book papa Arnold does indeed make it back to the hangout. In my own defence though we don't get to learn about his journey just that he made it ,so I'm not surprised that i had forgotten that fact. Maybe it will make me wait till i check my facts before posting, but then again i never learn

So again very sorry Hector.
By the way Reklaw2 a very informative post there, did you forget what you wanted to say or did you press the post button prematurely :doubt:

Vermin16 · Post by **Vermin16** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:46 pm

No, he's just one of those people we get every now and again that ruins our fun. It's always fun to make fun of them, though.

Hector · Post by **Hector** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:48 pm

Uncle Swan wrote: As promised here is my apology to Hector, sorry in the book papa Arnold does indeed make it back to the hangout. In my own defence though we don't get to learn about his journey just that he made it ,so I'm not surprised that i had forgotten that fact. Maybe it will make me wait till i check my facts before posting, but then again i never learn So again very sorry Hector.
By the way Reklaw2 a very informative post there, did you forget what you wanted to say or did you press the post button prematurely :doubt:

Don't worry, people make mistakes all the time. But yeah, papa arnold (cleon) made it back and Hector (Swan) and some of the others got arrested.

Reklaw2 · Post by **Reklaw2** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:13 am

[glow=red,2,300]why does cleon have to die tho its not fair on him.

stevo2k6 · Post by **stevo2k6** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:33 am

Hurk Fun wrote: Yeah, Cleon was great. Luther would have been an annoying little prick anyway, but for causing Cleon's death, and even for the way in which he did so, he goes down as one of the most despicable faggots that ever existed.

lol i see what you mean he will be annoying for the cause of cleons death.

dont use sware words bit of advice the mods wont hesitate to ban you for 30 days, they have done it to me for over posting they dont mess about just keep cool, not having a go just trying to help,

Swans right hand man · Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:14 pm

cleons death drives the film everyone wants to see what the warriors will do with out there leader. characters like swan would be in the back ground if cleon had made it out the meeting

stevo2k6 · Post by **stevo2k6** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:17 pm

cleaon would be calling all the shots

kingcleon · Post by **kingcleon** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:35 pm

cleon is king if he survived the warriors would have made it home a lot easier

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:39 pm

kingcleon wrote: cleon is king if he survived the warriors would have made it home a lot easier[/color

Probably,but the movie wouldn't be so interesting then!

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