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My idea for an ideal style system

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:32 pm
by Love me! LOVE DOPEFISH!
Well, even though we know this won't happen, imagine this:

We already know that in this game, there'll be the styles of Street Fighting, Brawling, and Kung-fu/martial arts, right?

I think that's a tad too generic, especially with the third one.

What I would propose, is, I'm not sure if this holds true in real life, but in movies you always see New York filled with (mostly) little places to learn Martial Arts. Now, my idea, would be to have a character visit places like this, take a class or two, and have some of that style influence their fighting in the streets. The more classes you take, they develop more skills, effectively creating a fusion between formal martial arts and street fighting. Martial arts that are more strange, obscure, or exotic, would require more training to properly use any elements of it properly. (Example: Say you find one shop in the game, the only one that'll teach capoeira. Since it's a strange style, you have to take several lessons to effectively wield many elements. However, karate, judo, and boxing, because of how they'd be easier to find and are in comparison much simpler for beginners to use, would only require one or two lessons to effectively wield a few moves from it.)

So, for example, I take Snowball, Cowboy, Ajax, and Rembrandt to a few shops and gyms.

Snowball takes a Judo class. During a street fight later on, he effectively grabs a guy by the arm and flips him onto the ground, proceeding to pin the guy down with heel on throat, before giving a brutal beatdown.

Cowboy takes a kendo class. During that same street fight, Cowboy proceeds to grab a wooden stick. He starts to bash the enemy senseless. The enemy, now dazed, backs off a bit, as Cowboy bears down on his head hard with a vertical blow from the stick.

Ajax instead takes some boxing lessons. Later, in a fight with another rival gang, he softens up the enemy with 1-2 jabs, comes in close with a left hook, then finishes with a right uppercut, effectively knocking him out.

Rembrandt takes a particularly exotic one - Capoeira - and isn't too good at it, due to its high agility and skill level required. However, Rembrandt gets thrown on the ground, and as he's getting up, rolls and releases a kick to the back of an opponent's knee, knocking them over instead.

Not the best examples, but I think you can see what I'm getting at. Obviously, each style would have its advantages and disadvantages, and you wouldn't formally master any. (See: Capoeira. Too flashy for effective use in a street fight, and would lack a lot of the brutality.)

My idea for an ideal style system

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:36 pm
by Oddity
But if the characters are already assigned with different fighting styles there would be no need to take individual fight classes?

My idea for an ideal style system

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:25 pm
by Love me! LOVE DOPEFISH!
Well, obviously I didn't see that announcement until after I made this long-arsed post. :P

My idea for an ideal style system

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:41 am
by PunkRockWarrior62
Wow, that is a really cool idea! Maybe each characters "native" fighting style could also influence their future learnings.

My idea for an ideal style system

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:54 pm
by E-Man
Kind of GTA:SA, except iwth more choices and more depth when showing the training right?

It sounds pretty cool and original :D But, i'd rather stick with the one's they're put with instead of seeing Ajax learn martial arts and start to do alot of kicks and bruce lee noises.

My idea for an ideal style system

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:28 pm
by Love me! LOVE DOPEFISH!
Like I said, it'd never be formal. Even if Ajax managed to learn Jeet Kune Do, he'd probably just do a few things, before breaking down the style into "Grab head. Beat face." And besides, I have to wonder if Ajax can even make noises that high-pitched.

Another thing, is body build and the already custom-tailored styles. I doubt Ajax would be willing to learn anything really kick-based, especially since he tends to rely more on his upper body strength. If you brought him into a place teaching a really leg-based style, and saw all that stuff and the white uniforms, he'd probably call everyone "faggots", and then step outside where he immediately wrestles a shark to death. A robotic shark. That had laser eyes.