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The search for good female characters
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:21 am
by Godfather
I found this article about strong females in The Warriors:
http://thehathorlegacy.info/ill-tell-yo ... thing-now/
Re: The search for good female characters
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:21 am
by The Swan
Well nice find, it's a good article! Maybe too many " BIG" words... anyway it's ok! 8)
Re: The search for good female characters
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:39 am
by ajax the warrior
good find godfather so many big words though.
Re: The search for good female characters
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:43 am
by Cyrus
ajax the warrior wrote:
good find godfather so many big words though.
Yeah man,I've managed to read it all the way thru, although I still don't know what the word 'misogynistic' means!?
Re: The search for good female characters
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:03 pm
by WildBoy
Yes Mercy obviosuly is the only female character who undergoes a tremendous transistion. And he details that transistion fairly well, but I would have also pointed out the scene in the subway with the prom couple, that scene extends from Swan's oblique apology at Union Square to Mercy.
But I don't understand why he starts off talking about Ajax, guys wanting to get laid, use of the word faggot, the park scene and then the clash with The Lizzies.
Maybe the writer is gay and loved to see Ajax get busted, you can really sense that he's happy for the outcome of Ajax's character.
Also, I personally didn't think all the Lizzies were dykes, maybe just the blond and the black girl who were dancing together.
Re: The search for good female characters
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:31 am
by Cyrus
Scurvy Dog wrote:
Cyrus wrote:
ajax the warrior wrote:
good find godfather so many big words though.
Yeah man,I've managed to read it all the way thru, although I still don't know what the word 'misogynistic' means!?
Misogynistic means sexist (against women), or somehow thinking women are inferior to men.
Thanks for that,Scurvy!Since English is not my native language,i get confused with some words like that one!
Re: The search for good female characters
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:34 am
by papa arnold
Cyrus wrote:
Scurvy Dog wrote:
Cyrus wrote:
Yeah man,I've managed to read it all the way thru, although I still don't know what the word 'misogynistic' means!?
Misogynistic means sexist (against women), or somehow thinking women are inferior to men.
Thanks for that,Scurvy!Since English is not my native language,i get confused with some words like that one!
english is my native language and trust me most of us get confused with words like that aswell
Re: The search for good female characters
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:58 pm
by The Swan
WildBoy wrote:
Yes Mercy obviosuly is the only female character who undergoes a tremendous transistion. And he details that transistion fairly well, but I would have also pointed out the scene in the subway with the prom couple, that scene extends from Swan's oblique apology at Union Square to Mercy.
But I don't understand why he starts off talking about Ajax, guys wanting to get laid, use of the word faggot, the park scene and then the clash with The Lizzies.
Maybe the writer is gay and loved to see Ajax get busted, you can really sense that he's happy for the outcome of Ajax's character.
Also, I personally didn't think all the Lizzies were dykes, maybe just the blond and the black girl who were dancing together.
WildBoy, when I first read the article I posted it was a good one and anyway it is so!
But now, I re-read it and I think that only the autor(I don't know if he is gay or not!) is MISOGYNOUS. I mean he tells that the movie shows misogynistic characters, but he only understood that "The Warrior" is a movie showing women as slaves/inferior!!! We all know it's a GANGS MOVIE!!!
Infact I agree the lizzies are not dykes, maybe only two, and ajax sure likes women... and so on.... so I can only say that I don't know if he really watched "The Warriors", cause if he had really did it he wouldn't have written an article like that!!! 8)........ and I like Mercy!!!
8)
Re: The search for good female characters
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:42 pm
by Lion
Good article. How on Earth did you find this?
Re: The search for good female characters
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:18 pm
by adam88
yeah great find. The article reveals a interesting aspect to the film, and another side of women. This was a time where feminists and womens activits movements were taking a big role in society. I suppose Walter Hill was someone to reveal that in this film.
Re: The search for good female characters
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:55 pm
by WildBoy
adam88 wrote:
yeah great find. The article reveals a interesting aspect to the film, and another side of women. This was a time where feminists and womens activits movements were taking a big role in society. I suppose Walter Hill was someone to reveal that in this film.
Just like the James Bond movies - the main actresses in the Bond films were usually slapped around or ditzy girls with nice healthy bodies. This was prevalent in all of the Connery movies and a little bit in the first 2 Roger Moore films.
But in 1977, the Bond movie producers did a first and casted a "Bond" type of female spy for the movie "The Spy Who Loved Me." This new type of "Bond" girl matches Bond in skill, intelligence, sexiness and wit. A lot of movie-goers loved this type of "Bond" girl and it worked with Roger Moore and the lovely, smart Barbara Bach.
So kudos to Walter Hill, his character of Mercy undergoes this huge transformation - Mercy is at first cheap, trouble-maker going nowhere fast - and then shows that she's looking to improve her life, she's really stong-minded, can certainly handle her own and wants to rise from the ashes that poverty brings.
Mercy is so unlike that whore who gets gang-raped in the Sol Yurick book.
I agree I like Mercy as well!@