Has anyone else seen this other Warriors site??

JoeWalsh · Post by **JoeWalsh** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:00 pm

I stumbled across this link from the IMDB WARRIORS 2006 message board. This site is AMAZING! All the deleted scenes are available to download here (not the greatest quality but good enough), rare production pictures, as well as the soundtrack. Take a look at the deleted Cyrus scene and someone explain to me why this was not left in?

Here's the site :

http://thewarriorsreallivebunch.homeste ... epage.html

Post by **GonzoNYC** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:08 pm

That's a great site. It's been around for a few years now.

warriorchick · Post by **warriorchick** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:53 pm

yes, i've seen the site - the guys did an awesome job on it.

LATEM · Post by **LATEM** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:37 pm

That site has been up for a while and therefore they should be considered the leaders! No controversy intended.

JoeWalsh · Post by **JoeWalsh** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:06 pm

I suppose I should have expected that most people knew of it. I didn't see it listed in the links section so I wasn't sure. The content there is incredible.

BigMike7 · Post by **BigMike7** » Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:20 pm

Good stuff Maynard...........

MrVess · Post by **MrVess** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:20 am

Regarding the deleted scenes...

There is normally a good reason why they are deleted, regardless of the production (*) - and the scenes from "The Warriors" are no exception. And in their case, redundance is the key.

The "group walk" scene contains an impressive, atmospheric shot of the gang walking through an ambiently lit narrow passage, but is overall pointless and redundant, with repetitive and mundane dialogue. If, on the other hand, it was cut to include *only* the passage take, it would become too short. (And it might provoke some to mischievously point out "Look, it's an obligatory _auteur_ shot!")

Cyrus's park speech is badly paced, needlessly extends his scene, contains mostly information that had already been made clear in previous takes, and does not add anything worth recalling. It is rather unconvincingly delivered, too - even considering the previously presented quality of Cyrur's take on thespianism.

"Cops and Furies" - once again, pointless repetition of the obvious. The viewers have learned by now that Masai receives every tidbit of information regarding the Warriors' movement quickly and efficiently, and they know everything that Masai is told. Redundant.

"Turnbull ACs" - this is one scene that, seemingly, could actually make it, as it is the very first instance of the announcer informing the gangs of the "progress" of the chase. However, its inclusion would have made at least one of her later appearances pointless - we would have already known that she relays the information via the waves, and repeating it ad infinitum would have become tiresome - and since all of her following takes have better pacing and tension, Walter Hill apparently decided to excise the weakest of these scenes... even if it was the first one. At least that's what I would have done.

"Where's Ajax?" - redundance, once again. We know everything told in this scene, so we might as well assume that Swan learns it from the rest of the gang, without having to witness the act. Additionally, the scene contains some rather stiff silent acting - hand me the scissors!

"We've got one more..." - redundant, redundant, redundant! We know all that! We know the Warriors do! We saw the Rogues' car trailing our protagonists! Cut.

And the infamous "daytime opening"... the bottom of the very worst. A nauseatingly dreadful idea that would not only destroy the braces of darkness framing the film, but would also spit in the face of the symbolic ending and set it on fire. As if that was not awful enough, the scene even comes with its very own insanely bad setup, infantile character introduction and choice of music which is, to put it gently, inane. The very possibility of including such a thoroughly wretched scene in the film is so frighteningly imbecilic that I am almost convinced that it was not Walter Hill's idea and that it was possibly shot without his knowledge or approval.

(*) - excluding instances of censorship and the sad cases of "marketing editing", obviously.

The Green Meanie · Post by **The Green Meanie** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:23 am

LATEM wrote:That site has been up for a while and therefore they should be considered the leaders! No controversy intended.

I think you're an idiot! No controversy intended.

LATEM · Post by **LATEM** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:49 am

The Green Meanie wrote:
LATEM wrote:That site has been up for a while and therefore they should be considered the leaders! No controversy intended.
I think you're an idiot! No controversy intended.

What kind of "chicken shit is that?" Hey man, let's stop the bull, okay? Truce? I guess you and a few other didn't like since the beginning, but I am open to a dialogue. I never meant to offend anybody, including you. So, I you're willing, cool, otherwise FUCK YOU!

The Green Meanie · Post by **The Green Meanie** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:26 am

I'm not too sure what you said, but I'm guessing you said I'm fair game. Which, I'm totally cool with. I don't have any problem with people taking shots at me, its all in fun.

LATEM · Post by **LATEM** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:30 am

The Green Meanie wrote:I'm not too sure what you said, but I'm guessing you said I'm fair game. Which, I'm totally cool with. I don't have any problem with people taking shots at me, its all in fun.

Truce then. I must admit that when I made my observation about the "fact" that the author of the book intended Latino characters only was simply stupid. Hey, I had way too many beers that night. Heineken to be exact. The same colors which identify you.

I guess I am an idiot sometimes.

The Green Meanie · Post by **The Green Meanie** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:43 am

Haha, Heineken..the beer you drink while listening to German Industrial Techno.

LATEM · Post by **LATEM** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:48 am

The Green Meanie wrote:Haha, Heineken..the beer you drink while listening to German Industrial Techno.

No bro, I listen to death/black and power metal. I hope the remake of the movie includes some of these genres. Are you into that "music" you mention? I guess you listen to polkas, am I right?

lol

JoeWalsh · Post by **JoeWalsh** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:39 am

Cyrus's park speech is badly paced, needlessly extends his scene, contains mostly information that had already been made clear in previous takes, and does not add anything worth recalling. It is rather unconvincingly delivered, too - even considering the previously presented quality of Cyrur's take on thespianism.

I agree with you on all the deleted scenes except this one. It's not the greatest piece of dialogue or pacing in the film (there are numerous others as well) but I do think it should have been left in. Cyrus is charismatic and messianic to the groundling gangs. But the scene as is could have used some padding, a little more insight into his character aside from hearing of him as "the one and only". The deleted scene does, I think, lend Cyrus an augmented credibilty as a rank and file leader, a master of persuasion, and a cult of personality.

I strongly agree with you about the daytime opening. It was horribly shot and in contrast to the original virtually destroys the nocturnal macabre underscoring of the film. It would have ruined it.

The Green Meanie · Post by **The Green Meanie** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:28 am

LATEM wrote:No bro, I listen to death/black and power metal. I hope the remake of the movie includes some of these genres. Are you into that "music" you mention? I guess you listen to polkas, am I right?

You know, that would be intresting to see how they'd intergrate metal music into the movie. It could be done, but it could also be done pretty badly.

As far as I go, I listen to alot of different kinds of music, but not polka.