~Cleon~

rembrandt77 · Post by **rembrandt77** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:56 pm

Do you think if Cleon had survived everyone had got home safely?
Lets look at the facts if he would have been still alive.

~ He wouldent have made the group split up at the one subway, which would ultimately lead to The Fox not getting ran over by the train.

~They would have wooped the baseball furies butts

~If the did kick the furies butts on the street the wouldent been walking in the park were the undercover cop was and Ajax wouldent have got arrested.

~They wouldent have met up with the lizzies and Rembrandt wouldent have gotten cut.

~The punks would have gotten beaten down hard in the subway no need to fight in the washroom.

~Finally they would have probobly beat the crap outta the Rouges before the Riffs came.

all in all i wish Cleon had survived but unfortunatly he dident, poor dude I think if he survivied he would be a favorite to most of us.

Cowboy79 · Post by **Cowboy79** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:38 pm

I like Cleon but even if he was still alive they would of still be seperated at the one subway and The Baseball Furies would chase them still because they were out numbered, Cleon thinks the same as Swan so he wouldn't take on the punks right outside the washroom. It wouldn't make a diffrence if he was alive or wasn't they wouldn't be as outnumbered as they were was the only diffrence he would make.

prozium · Post by **prozium** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:20 pm

What I always wondered though was: Would Cleon also have ran from The Orphans or would he have ordered The Warriors to rumble? Cleon was very enthusiastic about making a name for The Warrirors and standing up for themselves, I think we would have seen a Warriors-Orphans brawl if Cleon had been alive.

Ranchgal · Post by **Ranchgal** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:59 am

Quote:~ He wouldent have made the group split up at the one subway, which would ultimately lead to The Fox not getting ran over by the train. Quote

Actually---you or anyone else doesn't have clue about that---they did not split up voluntarily----they were all running from the police and got separated, and I got news for you---Cleon being there or not being there would not have helped that particular situation---as he would have been running too---so if that is your premise---I don't think it would make a difference at all to what happened to any of them including Fox. The only one it may have mattered to at all would have been AJAX, NOW if Cleon would have been there, it may have stopped him from going back to the cop on the park bench. Other than that, I don't see it making any difference except IF he were still alive---The Warriors might not have gotten the blame for killing Cyrus. But they would still be crossing enemy territory. And the fights would have probably happened anyway.

Post by **Lion** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:44 am

Yeah I have to agree. I don't think things would of change that much, maybe the fact that Ajax wouldn't of gotten arrested. The fights would of been better, but other than that everything would of happened just the same. I have always thought; "what if they hadn't taken Mercy, would Fox had been killed anyways?". Maybe.....maybe not.

da-warrior · Post by **da-warrior** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:15 am

i agree though that cleon if he did survive would have been a very popular character for alot of us on here ,i think it would be interesting to have seen his leadership qualities more and how he would have controlled the warriors ,he must of been well respected to have been in control of a big gang,he came across as a confident CAT..which u would have to be obviously

Luna51 · Post by **Luna51** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:02 pm

if cleon would like to rumble everybody out of the way?

that rockstar made a mistake with the flashbacklevel "Heavy muscle" where Ajax en Snow ran from the destroyers and cleon said: this is not the time or the place

Luna51 · Post by **Luna51** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:03 pm

the real cleon is still alive though

Tantive7 · Post by **Tantive7** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:51 pm

prozium

What I always wondered though was: Would Cleon also have ran from The Orphans or would he have ordered The Warriors to rumble? Cleon was very enthusiastic about making a name for The Warrirors and standing up for themselves, I think we would have seen a Warriors-Orphans brawl if Cleon had been alive.

I think if Cleon was still alive,he would rather think about getting home,safe,with all of his soldiers,rather than rumble with some low-class losers like The Orphans..
Making a name for yourself,would be pointless if your
outnumbered and dead!!!

RUMBLE if needed.. Don't waste your energy,Save your resources,for when the time comes,
It gives you the advantage,and it shows your Strength..

"The Art of WAR",great read if you want to be a thinker and a leader

my brother..

But that is just an opinion...

Twitch · Post by **Twitch** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:36 pm

Yeah Cleon would have changed the course of the nite for sure. Since he's the top bopper in the gang he would have been a powerful fighter in any skirmishes they would have had. Also if they'd all been together he would have never let Ajax stop to screw around with the lady cop.

emissary · Post by **emissary** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:40 pm

That's a good point. Cleon would have fought Ajax rather than leave him. Swan was just so aggravated by his attitude that he said just go. (i know he didn't actually say that) Cleon was the only one with a thumb on Ajax.

ajaxman · Post by **ajaxman** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:13 pm

All respect to Cleon. But I don't think him being there would have been too different from if he wasn't there. THe decisions that Swan made were the same things I think Cleon would have made.

emissary · Post by **emissary** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:26 pm

I agree, Swan was perfect and Cleon would have done the same things. But with regard to Ajax, Cleon had more control.

vermin76 · Post by **vermin76** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:29 am

if cleon still ran the gang then in my opinion ajax would have been on a leash under cleon.

da-warrior · Post by **da-warrior** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:56 am

theres no question swan stepped up to the plate and was a natural born leader,but cleon looked mean and menacing he was TOUGH AS NAILS and that headware was cool

if cleon had ajax on a leash i woulda been happy coz he would of made it home