How did the Furies know the Warriors would come out?

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How did the Furies know the Warriors would come out?

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How did they?  I mean I am sure that they knew cops were roaming the place and that gave them a 50/50 chance of the Warriors running out.  But what if they didn't?  or what they ran out a different way?
In that secene I wish all the Warriors would of come out and scrap it with the Furies right there on the street!
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It's one of those moments that only happen in the movies. Of course, there's no way the Furies knew the warriors would be coming out of the station at that exact time.  And there's definitely no way that they would be arranged in a perfect semi-circle like that.

Imagine if you were just some tourist coming out of the station and you see the furies standing there.  You heard New York was full of weirdos, but this is ridiculous.

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The answer that I typically use for this question is that they got lucky. In 1979, 96th Street Station was the first express station on the line, and the 2 Train began skip-stop service south of there. North of that station the trains ran local, making all stops. This is no longer the case today, as local service runs all night. You might be wondering how this could work in the Furies' favour. Well, three lines served the station then. The 1 Broadway-Seventh Avenue Local and the 3 Seventh Avenue Express, in addition to the 2 that The Warriors were riding.

As I said, the 2 Train skipped some less active stops, so it was beneficial for people headed downtown to switch to it, rather than staying on the 1 Local and sitting through all stops. Likewise, if your stop was one of these less active ones, you'd best get onto the 1 Local or else you'd be in for a bit of a walk. The 3 didn't run during late nights, leaving only those two choices. Because of this, the MTA instituted a policy where at 96th Street, the one service would wait for the other. If the express pulled into the station, it would wait for the local, and vice versa.

Now, imagine this. You are the Furies. You know that The Warriors are on one of those trains, since they haven't been reported captured and the 2 was the only train they could have gotten on at the time. You also know very well that the cops are on edge and busting anyone in colours, and they are crawling all over that station. The Express was almost always there first, meaning they would be waiting for a bit. Sitting ducks for the cops. I don't know about you, but I would see this as good odds. So they decided to go and wait. I would assume that they posted people at all of the exits, and one group got lucky.

I know that sounds obscenely nerdy and unlikely for gang members to know, but the subway was and still is the lifeblood of the city, so it's not unlikely for them to have come to this conclusion.

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Well, I thought maybe after Masai had been told that the orphans didn't get them, he told an emmisary or someone to tell the Furies that the Warriors were coming their way.
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Scurvy Dog wrote: I think the Furies had to have known the Warriors would at least be passing through their turf on the way home. They knew the cops were looking to bust anybody in gang colors, so they stayed out of the subway... at least in their colors.

For all we know, they may have had a non-uniformed member or affiliate hang out in the subway and watch for the Warriors... to tip off the cops (and to let them know to be ready). The Furies simply waited outside, just in case the Warriors were flushed out by the cops.

I'm sure the radio broadcasts helped them to pinpoint their location. After the Orphans, maybe their wasn't another stop until 96th Street at that time of night. If that was the case, then the Warriors were guaranteed to be there at some point. All they had to do was lie in wait.

A brawl on the street would have been awesome, but I wouldn't want to lose that chase scene down 100th Street. Maybe have another batch of Furies come up the other side of 100th Street, surrounding the Warriors and forcing them to fight? Then, have the Warriors leave through the park afterward and have Ajax get busted?
Yeah I agree. I think the Furies just saw the police go in the station and just waited outside for random gang members to get chased out. Maybe they wernt expecting the Warriors just a bonus. i well just confused myself.
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Well I agree who's already posted, too easy I know, so I'd only add the Furies couldn't make it otherwise... I mean I don't think that if 4 istance The Warriors had run out a different way (4 istance I posted a topic asking if The Warriors could have quite run out another train coach), Riffs would have accused them 4 a bad work. With the police in 96th St Station, Furies could only hope destiny would have helped them. Well, we know the movie.... but 9 vs 9.... it'd have been another story.... something like Warriors Chase!!! :mrgreen: 8)
 
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GramercyRiff99 wrote: .......As I said, the 2 Train skipped some less active stops, so it was beneficial for people headed downtown to switch to it, rather than staying on the 1 Local and sitting through all stops. Likewise, if your stop was one of these less active ones, you'd best get onto the 1 Local or else you'd be in for a bit of a walk. The 3 didn't run during late nights, leaving only those two choices. Because of this, the MTA instituted a policy where at 96th Street, the one service would wait for the other. If the express pulled into the station, it would wait for the local, and vice versa.......
Wow!! Everything you said here is true except that sometimes if the 2 or 3 trains arrives first and the 1 train is pulling into the station...the express trains leaves without even waiting for the 1 train to stop and open its doors...and vice versa

Everybody's explanation is really good...this topic is also in relation to the Lizzies...how did the Lizzies know that the Warriors were going to show up at Union Square...the assumed the right idea...for what the Lizzies and Furies know there are other trains heading to Coney Island...so what if the Warriors decided to take a different approach to getting home...the gangs had radios or other forms of communication...why do you think there was a DJ...there had to be one way or another for the gangs to find out what was going on and who they should be looking for...off-screen the DJ might have announced that they just left the Bronx and were on their way to 96th street...and that was the Furies first clue to where the Warriors were...then continuing on with spotting police officers at the station...

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molotov wrote: It's one of those moments that only happen in the movies. Of course, there's no way the Furies knew the warriors would be coming out of the station at that exact time.  And there's definitely no way that they would be arranged in a perfect semi-circle like that.

Imagine if you were just some tourist coming out of the station and you see the furies standing there.  You heard New York was full of weirdos, but this is ridiculous.
I agree that it was just something that happens in the movie.
Like there has been alot of threads when it asks stuff liek this and ussaly the obvious answer is- Its a movie, its not real. They planned that to happen, but if we want to be realistic and pretend that its real etc heres my oppinion-

I recon that the word got spreaded about the Orphans blowing it and the Furies heard and decided that they would wait out on the street incase they came.
If not just read what i said above!
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All I have to say is..
The Riffs send out the word..
And It went out on The Radio..
And with The Police There to Draw
The Warriors out into the open..
And In the case of The Furies,
Your in Their Turf..
And it was just by Chance that They saw The Warriors..
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Come out of The Train Station..
And They encounter The Furies.
But me,I would had fought The Furies,
Right then and there,..
And to our advantage,HEY..we had AJAX!!!
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I cant really add anything to what everyone has already said but I will say one thing......

Imagine how you would feel if you burst out of the station and thought you were out of the frying pan....just to see a group of baseball bat wielding maniacs in front you and realise you had landed right in the fire?

As it just so happens, the first time I ever watched the Warriors I turned it on just as you see the yellow Furie. It was really late at nite , 2 or 3 in the morning. I seriously got a huge fright lol
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I am just going to have to go with "fate" and "destiny".  Things happen for a reason, and theres something about the immediate encounter, that was supposed to happen.  Who knows, what other alternate events could have happened.  Like for instance, maybe if Cochise, Vermin, and Rembrandt, didn't go with the Lizzies, they could have met a worse fate with another gang.  Speaming of thew Lizzies, how did the Lizzies know warriors would show up there as well.  My guess is that some of these gangs had to obviously have much more members and aoldiers scouting other parts of the city, and if warriors showed up there, they would encounter the samething.  For all we know, there were more furies scouting other parts of the city, and the warriors were bound to run into those ones aswell.  So things were unavoidable.  Maybe there some crazy devine intervention, that makes these gangs meet like thins, and that night had some weird force behind it, driving every cult of action, into that one point and moment in time.  Whatever it was, we cannot change the coarse of life from taking its coarse, because it will inevitable meet.  So in another words, we have to just go along with the ride, and see how our human capabilities can cope with these actions.

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Everybody, including Luther, knew that 96th St. would be a place they had to go through. 
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or maybe they just waited and waited because on the radio they kneew the warriors wanted to get home so yeah that station was probs one of the obvious places that they would go to so they could get them and they probs had nowt else better to do i mean they didnt have internet or an x box 360 ;)
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